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2020 September 11
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Украл выпил в тюрьму
Поедешь в тюрьму раньше, чем украдешь
NL
https://youtu.be/P2yr-3F6PQo
Было бы классно TLDW... Придётся мне.
Для меня этот видос просто растекание мыслью по древу. Несколько мыслей оттуда:
21:11 functional is the discipline upon assignment
28:40 there's probably something about programming and text. That is so well aligned because when you're proaramming, time is linear in a program and so we think of
our code as being linear in an algiorithm, time goes in one direction so that's one dimensional — text.
25:51 algorithms occur as a sequence of events, the execution of an one-dimensional time runs in a single dimension so it is probably natural model it as a sequence of statements in a text
32:08 Lisp is the language that will not die
39:03 C++ what about that that's all the same problems that C has and, boy, is its syntax heavy Wow learning all that syntax is just horrible and now I mean the Standards Committee has just gone completely ape, they're just adding syntax lots of little fiddly stuff in there I think I'd rather not learn all that stuff
46:49 and another thing we've learned is that we want our languages to be garbage collected yeah we've learned our lesson on this what we don't want to be doing manual memory control anymore my god how many times have we been rebooting it midnight because of horrible memory leaks and stuff like that
50:25 another language attribute that I think we want is homo iconicity
52:02 Сlosure it's the only one that meets all the criteria I've outlined I think it's a good language
Особенно меня подожгло от того, что якобы текст линейный и алгоритмы линейные, что офигенно далеко от правды, учитывая что программа на ленивом Хаскеле может прыгать по множеству редукций и даже одновременно.
И ни слова о Rust! Этот Дядя Боб сломался, несите другого.
Было бы классно TLDW... Придётся мне.
Для меня этот видос просто растекание мыслью по древу. Несколько мыслей оттуда:
21:11 functional is the discipline upon assignment
28:40 there's probably something about programming and text. That is so well aligned because when you're proaramming, time is linear in a program and so we think of
our code as being linear in an algiorithm, time goes in one direction so that's one dimensional — text.
25:51 algorithms occur as a sequence of events, the execution of an one-dimensional time runs in a single dimension so it is probably natural model it as a sequence of statements in a text
32:08 Lisp is the language that will not die
39:03 C++ what about that that's all the same problems that C has and, boy, is its syntax heavy Wow learning all that syntax is just horrible and now I mean the Standards Committee has just gone completely ape, they're just adding syntax lots of little fiddly stuff in there I think I'd rather not learn all that stuff
46:49 and another thing we've learned is that we want our languages to be garbage collected yeah we've learned our lesson on this what we don't want to be doing manual memory control anymore my god how many times have we been rebooting it midnight because of horrible memory leaks and stuff like that
50:25 another language attribute that I think we want is homo iconicity
52:02 Сlosure it's the only one that meets all the criteria I've outlined I think it's a good language
Особенно меня подожгло от того, что якобы текст линейный и алгоритмы линейные, что офигенно далеко от правды, учитывая что программа на ленивом Хаскеле может прыгать по множеству редукций и даже одновременно.
И ни слова о Rust! Этот Дядя Боб сломался, несите другого.
R
https://youtu.be/P2yr-3F6PQo
Было бы классно TLDW... Придётся мне.
Для меня этот видос просто растекание мыслью по древу. Несколько мыслей оттуда:
21:11 functional is the discipline upon assignment
28:40 there's probably something about programming and text. That is so well aligned because when you're proaramming, time is linear in a program and so we think of
our code as being linear in an algiorithm, time goes in one direction so that's one dimensional — text.
25:51 algorithms occur as a sequence of events, the execution of an one-dimensional time runs in a single dimension so it is probably natural model it as a sequence of statements in a text
32:08 Lisp is the language that will not die
39:03 C++ what about that that's all the same problems that C has and, boy, is its syntax heavy Wow learning all that syntax is just horrible and now I mean the Standards Committee has just gone completely ape, they're just adding syntax lots of little fiddly stuff in there I think I'd rather not learn all that stuff
46:49 and another thing we've learned is that we want our languages to be garbage collected yeah we've learned our lesson on this what we don't want to be doing manual memory control anymore my god how many times have we been rebooting it midnight because of horrible memory leaks and stuff like that
50:25 another language attribute that I think we want is homo iconicity
52:02 Сlosure it's the only one that meets all the criteria I've outlined I think it's a good language
Особенно меня подожгло от того, что якобы текст линейный и алгоритмы линейные, что офигенно далеко от правды, учитывая что программа на ленивом Хаскеле может прыгать по множеству редукций и даже одновременно.
И ни слова о Rust! Этот Дядя Боб сломался, несите другого.
Было бы классно TLDW... Придётся мне.
Для меня этот видос просто растекание мыслью по древу. Несколько мыслей оттуда:
21:11 functional is the discipline upon assignment
28:40 there's probably something about programming and text. That is so well aligned because when you're proaramming, time is linear in a program and so we think of
our code as being linear in an algiorithm, time goes in one direction so that's one dimensional — text.
25:51 algorithms occur as a sequence of events, the execution of an one-dimensional time runs in a single dimension so it is probably natural model it as a sequence of statements in a text
32:08 Lisp is the language that will not die
39:03 C++ what about that that's all the same problems that C has and, boy, is its syntax heavy Wow learning all that syntax is just horrible and now I mean the Standards Committee has just gone completely ape, they're just adding syntax lots of little fiddly stuff in there I think I'd rather not learn all that stuff
46:49 and another thing we've learned is that we want our languages to be garbage collected yeah we've learned our lesson on this what we don't want to be doing manual memory control anymore my god how many times have we been rebooting it midnight because of horrible memory leaks and stuff like that
50:25 another language attribute that I think we want is homo iconicity
52:02 Сlosure it's the only one that meets all the criteria I've outlined I think it's a good language
Особенно меня подожгло от того, что якобы текст линейный и алгоритмы линейные, что офигенно далеко от правды, учитывая что программа на ленивом Хаскеле может прыгать по множеству редукций и даже одновременно.
И ни слова о Rust! Этот Дядя Боб сломался, несите другого.
👍😂
CD
https://youtu.be/P2yr-3F6PQo
Было бы классно TLDW... Придётся мне.
Для меня этот видос просто растекание мыслью по древу. Несколько мыслей оттуда:
21:11 functional is the discipline upon assignment
28:40 there's probably something about programming and text. That is so well aligned because when you're proaramming, time is linear in a program and so we think of
our code as being linear in an algiorithm, time goes in one direction so that's one dimensional — text.
25:51 algorithms occur as a sequence of events, the execution of an one-dimensional time runs in a single dimension so it is probably natural model it as a sequence of statements in a text
32:08 Lisp is the language that will not die
39:03 C++ what about that that's all the same problems that C has and, boy, is its syntax heavy Wow learning all that syntax is just horrible and now I mean the Standards Committee has just gone completely ape, they're just adding syntax lots of little fiddly stuff in there I think I'd rather not learn all that stuff
46:49 and another thing we've learned is that we want our languages to be garbage collected yeah we've learned our lesson on this what we don't want to be doing manual memory control anymore my god how many times have we been rebooting it midnight because of horrible memory leaks and stuff like that
50:25 another language attribute that I think we want is homo iconicity
52:02 Сlosure it's the only one that meets all the criteria I've outlined I think it's a good language
Особенно меня подожгло от того, что якобы текст линейный и алгоритмы линейные, что офигенно далеко от правды, учитывая что программа на ленивом Хаскеле может прыгать по множеству редукций и даже одновременно.
И ни слова о Rust! Этот Дядя Боб сломался, несите другого.
Было бы классно TLDW... Придётся мне.
Для меня этот видос просто растекание мыслью по древу. Несколько мыслей оттуда:
21:11 functional is the discipline upon assignment
28:40 there's probably something about programming and text. That is so well aligned because when you're proaramming, time is linear in a program and so we think of
our code as being linear in an algiorithm, time goes in one direction so that's one dimensional — text.
25:51 algorithms occur as a sequence of events, the execution of an one-dimensional time runs in a single dimension so it is probably natural model it as a sequence of statements in a text
32:08 Lisp is the language that will not die
39:03 C++ what about that that's all the same problems that C has and, boy, is its syntax heavy Wow learning all that syntax is just horrible and now I mean the Standards Committee has just gone completely ape, they're just adding syntax lots of little fiddly stuff in there I think I'd rather not learn all that stuff
46:49 and another thing we've learned is that we want our languages to be garbage collected yeah we've learned our lesson on this what we don't want to be doing manual memory control anymore my god how many times have we been rebooting it midnight because of horrible memory leaks and stuff like that
50:25 another language attribute that I think we want is homo iconicity
52:02 Сlosure it's the only one that meets all the criteria I've outlined I think it's a good language
Особенно меня подожгло от того, что якобы текст линейный и алгоритмы линейные, что офигенно далеко от правды, учитывая что программа на ленивом Хаскеле может прыгать по множеству редукций и даже одновременно.
И ни слова о Rust! Этот Дядя Боб сломался, несите другого.
начал слушать, чувак пока гениально делит киловатты на часы
CD
500 байт кода на файл... я почесал затылок и обратил внимание, что файл, который я редактирую, занимает 160КБ
NL
500 байт кода на файл... я почесал затылок и обратил внимание, что файл, который я редактирую, занимает 160КБ
Одно радует — такого типа видосы можно смотреть на 2х.
CD
Одно радует — такого типа видосы можно смотреть на 2х.
я тут немного дебагаю и фоном слушаю)
NL
я тут немного дебагаю и фоном слушаю)
Нормально! 😎💥
CD
Нормально! 😎💥
я не понял идею про инверсию зависимости относительно потока управления
NL
я не понял идею про инверсию зависимости относительно потока управления
Я тоже пропустил. Ждём того, кто понял и у него/неё спросим 😊
DF
Дядя Боб же маразматик
DF
Я думал это общепризнано уже
DF
Настолько же общепризнано / общепринято как требовать на собеседованиях знание солид
SP
Dollar Føølish
Дядя Боб же маразматик
всегда им был
DF
Ну у него маразм просто в 40 лет начался
H
CD
https://youtu.be/P2yr-3F6PQo
Было бы классно TLDW... Придётся мне.
Для меня этот видос просто растекание мыслью по древу. Несколько мыслей оттуда:
21:11 functional is the discipline upon assignment
28:40 there's probably something about programming and text. That is so well aligned because when you're proaramming, time is linear in a program and so we think of
our code as being linear in an algiorithm, time goes in one direction so that's one dimensional — text.
25:51 algorithms occur as a sequence of events, the execution of an one-dimensional time runs in a single dimension so it is probably natural model it as a sequence of statements in a text
32:08 Lisp is the language that will not die
39:03 C++ what about that that's all the same problems that C has and, boy, is its syntax heavy Wow learning all that syntax is just horrible and now I mean the Standards Committee has just gone completely ape, they're just adding syntax lots of little fiddly stuff in there I think I'd rather not learn all that stuff
46:49 and another thing we've learned is that we want our languages to be garbage collected yeah we've learned our lesson on this what we don't want to be doing manual memory control anymore my god how many times have we been rebooting it midnight because of horrible memory leaks and stuff like that
50:25 another language attribute that I think we want is homo iconicity
52:02 Сlosure it's the only one that meets all the criteria I've outlined I think it's a good language
Особенно меня подожгло от того, что якобы текст линейный и алгоритмы линейные, что офигенно далеко от правды, учитывая что программа на ленивом Хаскеле может прыгать по множеству редукций и даже одновременно.
И ни слова о Rust! Этот Дядя Боб сломался, несите другого.
Было бы классно TLDW... Придётся мне.
Для меня этот видос просто растекание мыслью по древу. Несколько мыслей оттуда:
21:11 functional is the discipline upon assignment
28:40 there's probably something about programming and text. That is so well aligned because when you're proaramming, time is linear in a program and so we think of
our code as being linear in an algiorithm, time goes in one direction so that's one dimensional — text.
25:51 algorithms occur as a sequence of events, the execution of an one-dimensional time runs in a single dimension so it is probably natural model it as a sequence of statements in a text
32:08 Lisp is the language that will not die
39:03 C++ what about that that's all the same problems that C has and, boy, is its syntax heavy Wow learning all that syntax is just horrible and now I mean the Standards Committee has just gone completely ape, they're just adding syntax lots of little fiddly stuff in there I think I'd rather not learn all that stuff
46:49 and another thing we've learned is that we want our languages to be garbage collected yeah we've learned our lesson on this what we don't want to be doing manual memory control anymore my god how many times have we been rebooting it midnight because of horrible memory leaks and stuff like that
50:25 another language attribute that I think we want is homo iconicity
52:02 Сlosure it's the only one that meets all the criteria I've outlined I think it's a good language
Особенно меня подожгло от того, что якобы текст линейный и алгоритмы линейные, что офигенно далеко от правды, учитывая что программа на ленивом Хаскеле может прыгать по множеству редукций и даже одновременно.
И ни слова о Rust! Этот Дядя Боб сломался, несите другого.
В общем, голосую что единый язык программирования будет либо плюсораст, обвешанный до уровня идриса, либо питоншарп, оптимизированный до си, но мы не имеем представления, какая из задач решится первой
NL
В общем, голосую что единый язык программирования будет либо плюсораст, обвешанный до уровня идриса, либо питоншарп, оптимизированный до си, но мы не имеем представления, какая из задач решится первой
Вообще конечно диапазон слишком широк, от низкоуровневого управления железом до бизнес-ориентированных DSL, ормов и бизнес-рулов.
Если бы у раста был бы легковесный низкошумный синтаксис для
Там просто задачи по-другому решаются: "Что показало нагрузочное тестирование? Тээкс, ясно, закажем 100 серверов, ну ладно, 120 на всякий случай"
Если бы у раста был бы легковесный низкошумный синтаксис для
Arc<RefCell<...>>, Box<dyn Trait> и позволял строить DSL типа файнал таглесовских, и обмазать это do-нотацией, то он мог бы претендовать на бизнес слой, а так с джава/скалами и сисярпами никак не потягаться.Там просто задачи по-другому решаются: "Что показало нагрузочное тестирование? Тээкс, ясно, закажем 100 серверов, ну ладно, 120 на всякий случай"
DF
Он мозилу теперь обратно на кресты будет переписывать?